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1  Crystal Space Development / Support / Re: Best Example of Clean, Basic, 3D Coding...? on: November 25, 2012, 10:01:30 am
Great.  Thanks Jorrit.  I think simple1 will do the trick. 
2  Crystal Space Development / Support / Best Example of Clean, Basic, 3D Coding...? on: November 25, 2012, 07:21:28 am
Hello.  On this page (, it says, "Developers probably should not use this application as a guide for developing their own programs, as it is not the best example in clean coding."

Question: what would be the best example in clean coding?  In other words, what would be the most basic and simple example of 3D environment where I could start from?  Thanks for your help.
3  Crystal Space Development / Support / Re: Absolute Beginner trying everything - nothing works on: October 26, 2012, 08:45:03 am
Jorrit, I took your suspicion to heart and tested this on a separate laptop without separate partitions for different operating systems and discovered something interesting, IT WORKS!  Apparently, Crystal Space doesn't like partitioned systems (at least not bootcamp partitions).  So I'm still considering getting a new computer because all of mine are extremely out of date and I would very much like to work with CS.  Now I just need to figure out how to code with MINGW / MSYS.  Thanks for your replies and greetings to you.
4  Crystal Space Development / Support / Re: Absolute Beginner trying everything - nothing works on: October 25, 2012, 01:53:53 am
So can somebody tell me if the behavior I mentioned before might be due to my inadequate system (like lack of a good graphics card)?  I'm sorry to keep pushing this but I'm very close to buying another computer just for this reason.  Certainly there must have been other people who have tried using CS on an insufficient set up... right?
5  Crystal Space Development / Support / Re: Absolute Beginner trying everything - nothing works on: October 21, 2012, 04:05:23 am
You're right.  This is a weird set up.  Just an update so far: I uninstalled XP and installed Windows 7 (which I've been meaning to do for a while anyways).  The first thing I did after a clean install was follow the documentation to build and run Crystal Space through MinGW.  I'm still getting the same result.  The only difference is that now I don't have VisualC++ anymore, so this is what happens:

the Crystal Space Standard Test Application window appears
the whole screen turns black for a second
a Windows warning message appears that offers two solutions, 1) check online for a solution and close the program, 2) close the program.

Windows is so helpful.  Anyhow, I figure the problem is one of two things: either CS won't run on a bootcamp partition or my graphics card is terribly insufficient.  I wish I knew definitively which one it was. 
6  Crystal Space Development / Support / Re: Absolute Beginner trying everything - nothing works on: October 17, 2012, 01:16:01 pm
I'm sorry it has taken me so long to reply.  I believe I got it to build now.  But now I'm having trouble actually running walktest.  I have experience running linux shell commands and C programs from terminal in Mac through the class I'm taking right now (would it be better to work with Crystal Space through Xcode and the terminal on my Mac??).  I'm not sure how to give you the output of anything I do, but this is what happens when I try to run walktest:

$ ./walktest

A 'Crystal Space Standar Test Application' window appears and looks like it's very close to launching the 3d application.  I see some white words pass by very quickly in the window.  Then a 'Visual Studio Just-In-Time Debugger' window appears.  It says that "an unhandled win32 exception occurred in walktest.exe[2952]".  It then prompts me to debug it in Microsoft Visual Studio 2010.  When I go to the debugger, it says "unhandled exception at 0x00000000 in walktest.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x00000000."

I feel like I'm really close to getting this thing to work.  Any ideas?  Thank you so much for helping me out.  It's so good to have helpful places like this.
7  Crystal Space Development / Support / Absolute Beginner trying everything - nothing works on: October 15, 2012, 01:48:18 pm
Hi.  For some reason, all of my attempts at building CS fail.  I wonder if my system doesn't meet the requirements:

CS 2.0
Windows XP (running on bootcamp Mac OS X)
Visual C++ 2010
Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family

I have tried building Crystal Space using the documentation for Visual C++ but with no success.  Currently I am working with MINGW/MSYS and I followed the documentation here: but I can't seem to get any results.  How would I know if it was successfully built?  I've tried running the walktest tutorial but usually get the error 'command not found' or something like that.

I'm a beginner with this stuff.  But I was hoping to get it working so I could show it off in a presentation I have for one of my upper-level computer science classes.  Any help is greatly appreciated.
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